KLZE and KLDE Comparison!

The JDM version of the KLDE(AKA KL03) engine is the KLZE. The KLZE engine is from Japan. Here is an indepth comparisons of the engines. There is 4-5 different versions of the 2.5L that is used by Ford and Mazda. The engines use the same piston height, bore and stroke, rod length, deck height, crank, and combustion chamber. All the information came from/can be found at ProbeTalk.com.

	Japanese: MS8 aka MX6	Japanese: Eunos 800: aka Pre-2000 Millenias	American, European, Australian: 93-94.5	American, European, Australian: 94.5 to present	American: 2000-up Millenias
Engine Code	KLZE	KLZE	KLDE	KLDE	KLDE
Horsepower*	200 @ 6500 RPM	200 @ 6500 RPM	164 @ 6000 RPM	164 @ 6000 RPM	170 @ 6500 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)*	165 @ 5500 RPM	165 @ 4800 RPM	156 @ 4000 RPM	160 @ 4800 RPM	160 @ 5000 RPM
Compression Ratio*	10:1	10:1	9.2:1	9.2:1	9.5:1
Bore x Stroke *(mm)	84.5x74.2	84.5x74.2	84.5x74.2	84.5x74.2	84.5x74.2
Ports*	Square	Square	D-shaped	D-shaped	Square
Head Codes	KL31-101 and KL31-1A1*	KL31-101 and KL31-1A1*	KL-101 and KL-1A1*	KL-101 and KL-1A1*	KL-31
Cams Codes	KL-31*	KL-01*	KL-01*	KL-01*	??
Intake Manifold*	Long Neck	Curved neck	Short Neck	Short Neck	Curved neck
VRIS #1 Open	??mm	??mm	750 rpms*	750 rpms*	??mm
VRIS #1 Close	??	??	3250 rpms*	3250 rpms*	??
VRIS #2 Open	??	??	4250 rpms*	4250 rpms*	??
VRIS #2 Close	6250 rpms	6250 rpms	6250 rpms*	6250 rpms*	6250 rpms
Stock RPM Limit*	7500	7500	7000	7000	7500
Fuel Pressure	??	??	??	??	??
Pistons*	Flat Top	Flat Top	Dished	Dished	Dished
ECU	KL31/36*	??	??	??	??
Air Meter*	JE-50 VAF	MAF	KL02 VAF	KL02 VAF	MAF
	Japanese: MS8 aka MX6	Japanese: Eunos 800: aka Pre-2000 Millenias	American, European, Australian: 93-94.5	American, European, Australian: 94.5 to present	American: 2000-up Millenias

	Japanese: 5 speed manual	Japanese: 5 speed manual	American, European, Australian: 5 speed manual
Transmission Code	???	???	???
1st gear	???	???	3.307*
2nd gear	???	???	1.833*
3rd gear	???	???	1.310*
4th gear	???	???	1.030*
5th gear	???	???	0.795*
Reverse	???	???	3.166*
Finial Drive	???	???	4.388*
traction	Open	LSD	Open
	Japanese: 5 speed manual	Japanese: 5 speed manual	American, European, Australian: 5 speed manual

NOTE: '*' - information is forsure, the ones that don't have the '*' are probably very close. I am in process of figureing out everything.

I have put together of a list of people that sell KLZE engine for the Ford Probes. On E-bay they usually run about $800-1400 for the engine maybe with a tranny (some have tranny's included). The Prices listed where quoted as of May 10ish, 2003. I asked for a price quote on several items: KLZE, 5speed Transmission with Limited Slip Differential, ECU, Air Meter and a Wire Harness. (NOTE: these are cost that the businsse has quoted to me. Prices may/will vary from time to time.)

Price are for what is listed. Prices do not include shipping.
A1 JDM ENGINES : $1200; Engine
CSN Motors: $895; Engine
Japan Direct: $1597; Engine
J-Spec Auto Sports: $1499; Engine and Trans w/o LSD ($1795 shipped)
Nippon-motors: $2100; (Engine: $1050, Trans: $650 w/o LSD, ECU: $500).
Noyan USA: $1400; Engine and Trans
Osaka Motors: $1400; Engine, Trans, and ECU
SoshinUSA: $1300
Sun's Motors: $1150; Engine ($1000 for mx3.com, mx6.com and/or probetalk.com members)
WildCard Performance: $1400; Engine and Trans(w/o LSD).

FRONT CLIPS
Currently No one sells a front clip with the KLZE engine. If you know of some who does E-mail(wvuviv31@hotmail.com}) with the information.



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